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Apr 1, 2022

This week, Dan Neumann is joined by Adam Ulery to explore the topic of scaled approaches independent of embracing an industry framework. In this episode, Dan and Adam are discussing scaling without adopting an Agile framework like SAFe. They share the reasons organizations use industry frameworks to scale, dive deep into the characteristics of SAFe and other frameworks, and describe the principles that need to be prioritized while scaling, such as Clarity of Vision, Goal Alignment, Frequent Delivery of Value, Planning and Coordination, and Transparency.


Key Takeaways

  • SAFe is the most popular Agile framework for leading enterprises because it works; it's trusted, customizable, and sustainable.
  • Why do people want to use an industry framework to start with?
    • People choose an industry framework to start with because they recognize and feel familiar with something that is out there in the market.
    • There is a script to follow, so people don’t have to think about the complicated parts; it is already done for them.
  • When to look for another scaling framework that is not SAFe?
    • When the scaling framework doesn’t work for the client, based on where they are at the moment.
    • Dan and Adam share an example to describe the situation where certain frameworks would not be of use.
    • The model can’t be against the organizational structure.
  • Principles around how an organization can scale:
    • Clarity of Vision: Make sure there is a good vision for the groups that are involved in the change, clearly expressing the purpose and goal behind the everyday work.
    • Goal Alignment: Capture the vision and create an alignment of goals that promotes it.
    • Aligning strategy to execution is an enormous tool.
    • Frequent Delivery of Value: Teams learn by delivering value and receiving feedback, which helps coordinating and planning the next step.
    • Transparency: Practicing transparency is key in a scaling process, especially when things get more complicated.
    • Technologies involved in scaling must be aligned; coherence is crucial.


Mentioned in this Episode:

Back Mechanic, by Dr. Stuart McGill

Thinking Orthodox: Understanding and Acquiring the Orthodox Christian Mind, Eugenia Scarvelis Constantinou


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